Nex-7 still best!

[yarmmcd]

Hi, I just went onto the Imaging Resource Compatator and compared the new Fuji x-pro2 with my old Nex-7 on the still life 100iso screen. the Nex shows more detail in the bottle label and where the Sony sees a red cloth with a pattern on it, the Fuji just sees a red cloth! 

Be interesting to see how the 6300 comperes!

 

[steph]

The nex-7 is a great camera but the image quality comes from the lenses.

I will post some nex-7 vs a6300 images as soon I have received the a6300

[Guest Jaf-Photo]

NEX-7 is a good camera, capable of detailed shots.

 

These comparison shots do however depend on the lenses, which are mostly different, unless you compare different models of the same brand. You will also see that some lenses have softer borders and that focus is sometimes off.

 

These comparisons are useful but don't take them too literally.

[yarmmcd]

Pretty sure good lenses are used and they're focussed carefully, I actually looked at the site before posting.

[markphoto4u]

The camera body is just a box that holds a roll of film or a sensor and processor. Cameras that have been made in the last several years are more than capable of tack sharp images. IMO any difference you see in IQ in this test must be due to the differences in lenses, and operator's knowledge and skill. I wish I had a dollar for every review I have read that reported a poor copy of a lens when the problem was most likely operator error. However, all lenses have their limitations. For example, most macro lenses are sharp across the frame, but not known for focus speed. The Canon 50mm 1.4 D is pretty soft, but some photographers like the bokeh and the look of the lens, especially for portraiture and flowers. Bottom line, IMHO, choose a body that you enjoy using and fits your needs, and then save your money for good glass.

 

 

markphoto4u

[yarmmcd]

Xpro2 cant see the pattern on the red fabric at all, that aint the lens! 

[Golem]

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Shot with truly horrendous optics,

wide open, at ISO 3200, handheld,

with the Nex-6 [only 2/3 the MP of

a Nex-7]. Not sure about that red

fabric shot, but focus has gotta be

SOMEWHERE :-b

[PierreP]

I've got a Nex 6 and an A6000, with a Zeiss 24 and a SEL50f1.8. Even though the A6000 is more recent, and 24MP, I sill prefer the results I get from the Nex 6 with both lenses.

 

Even if the Nex 7 is quite old now, I don't think you will see many differences in terms of IQ compared to the new Aps-c cameras to come.

[Golem]

I've got a Nex 6 and an A6000, with a Zeiss 24

and a SEL50f1.8. Even though the A6000 is more

recent, and 24MP, I sill prefer the results I

get from the Nex 6 with both lenses.

 

Even if the Nex 7 is quite old now, I don't

think you will see many differences in terms

of IQ compared to the new Aps-c cameras to come.

As a user of a 6, a 7, and a 6000, the only

lesser thing about the 7 is more noise at high

ISO. But it's not severe enuf to cause me to

park the 7 in favor of the others.

 

And yes I agree about the 16mp imaging of the

6. No noticeable inferior IQ vs the 24mp 6000

or the Nex 7. The 6000 is the best of the bunch

but they are all in the same league.

 

Mayhaps it's cuz I also use an a7mkII that the

APSC models all seem similar. The a7mkII is a

distinct step up in IQ over the smaller cameras,

even tho I use the same lenses on all of them,

even tho the APSC cameras ignore the corners

of the lenses coverage. So the difference is in

the cameras themselves.

 

Admittedly, I am not an IQ geek, so when I do

compare IQ results it's somewhat subjective.

The subjective view of results by the audience

is only view that matters IMNSHO. YMMV and

if it does then consider yourself a GIGS*

 

 

 

*Geek in Good Standing

[Austerror]

Yep, the Nex-7 is excellent. I won't be letting go of it, even when it dies.

[mangloria]

Well, folk,

I do not know if any of you followed my recent thread,  'Persuade Me'.

It seems the majority of your posts just confirm my opinion that a £1000 uk cost of upgrade from the Nex7 to the a6300 is unlikely to be worthwhile (for me at least).

We'll await the 'real world' tests, though and hope that the new technology sensor is a step up in quality and that, at higher ISOs, there is noticeably less noise.

 

Regards.

[Austerror]

In my experience, high ISO noise is what the Nex-7 does worst of all.

 

I wouldn't upgrade from a Nex-7 to anything else unless it did high ISO much better.  Like the A7s.

 

My Nex-7 is, however, now my secondary.  Primarily I shoot with an A99, the Nex is a backup.  The A99 does most things better, high ISO is one of these things.  If the 6300 is just about as good as the Nex-7 or a little better, then I would not upgrade.

[karographix]

NEX7 is extremely versatile camera and sony improving lens options for the E-mount makes it really the camera of choice.

This is one of the easiest cameras, if not THE easiest, ever made to shoot in full manual mode due to the 3 dial set up.

 

In addition, the adapter such as the Metabones are increasing the options for the optics side.

I personally use at times my Canon glass via adapter for the superb L lens performance.

 

I have taken a look at the a6000 and also a6300. The connectivity of Wifi and NFC, the better OVF... yes are nice gimmicks but the fact stays that the NEX7 is just simply still the better product for a photographer and the newer versions do not offer the speed and control in the same way as NEX7 does.

 

I often get asked which camera to go for when moving towards DSLR and getting more serious of starting photography.

Each time I recommend NEX7 hands down. Best performance, easy of use, great to learn with and extremely affordable first pro-level

I of then hope Sony would keep NEX7 as it is but throw in 36Mpix sensor and maybe the better EVF if the price tag allows it but as it is from HW point of view NEX7 is extremely solid and up to spec even still.

Always remember, you want to buy versatility, ease of use and great image quality from camera, not the best LCD screen or wifi or NFC which many brands now sell their mirrorless. 

 

Picture first and the only way to get there is controls which NEX7 puts neatly into the exposure triangle right at your thumb.

www.flickr.com/photos/karokujanpaa/25943742391/in/pool-sonymirrorless/

 

I also recommend to join the Sony Mirrorless group in Flickr and contribute. 

 

Br,

Karo

[Golem]

I mustov lost rack ... what year izzis ....

[Austerror]

I had a look at the specs Nex-7 vs A6300.  Apparently the EVF on the 7 magnifies x1.09% vs the A6300 of x0.7%.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.09 is larger?

 

LCD resolution are the same and EVF resolution is also equal.

[Golem]

I had a look at the specs Nex-7 vs A6300.  Apparently the

EVF on the 7 magnifies x1.09% vs the A6300 of x0.7%.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.09 is larger?

 

..........

  

 

While one cannot deny that 1.1 > 0.7, those numbers

alone do not describe the user benefit/experience of

an eyepiece. The eye relief distance also plays a part

in the impression of magnification, and in the comfort

level of using the finder. 

 

The difference above is great enuf that there's just no

doubt that the image in the Nex-7 would seem larger,

but the "how much" larger is not necessarily simply

1.1 / 0.7 =1 .6, therefor 1.6X larger .... unless perhaps

the eye relief is the same on both finders [unlikely tho].

  

Even the quality of the eyepiece optics will effect the

degree to which there's any benefit when using MF.

Also, various Sonys do not all use the same level of

magnification when engaging the MF assist feature.

[Austerror]

Indeed that is what I was thinking.

 

Whilst the Nex-7 is a great camera, I would not recommend it to anyone now if they are buying new.  The A6000 and A6300 are superior.  The only thing they are missing is the tri-navi system, which apparently no one liked, which is why they dropped it.  (I liked it!)

 

Auto focus on the Nex-7 is not so great compared to current standards as is high ISO performance.

[Joe S]

I agree that the NEX 7 is a great camera in most respects.    The only major issue I have with it is perhaps the worst menu system  ever inflicted on a camera.   If Sony had ever updated it I might never buy another camera!

[RightAngle]

"The only thing they are missing is the tri-navi system, which apparently no one liked, which is why they dropped it."
I like it, same as you. Same as many others, actually. Unfortunately, Sony, as usual, decided to just change things around for no apparent reason. 

[Austerror]

"The only thing they are missing is the tri-navi system, which apparently no one liked, which is why they dropped it."

I like it, same as you. Same as many others, actually. Unfortunately, Sony, as usual, decided to just change things around for no apparent reason. 

 

I suspect Sony was listening to the haters, who hated the tri-navy concept.  Of course these haters didn't buy a Nex-7.

 

Sony has been pretty good at listening to the consumer space.  The lossless RAW format change recently is an example.  Even if it makes almost no difference to most people.