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#1 goodyear

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:32 AM

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Hi shooters,

 

I shoot mainly landscapes and I do have currently only the 16-35mm on a FF body. Couple of days ago, during a trip, I found out with only 16-35 was quite limited, hence a longer lens is needed and I need your help.

My budget is limited since photography is my hobby and I own absolutely 0 from there.

My dilemma is between 24-70 or 70-200.

 

As landscape photographer with already 16-35mm, which one would be your next choice?

Please consider only the focal length which is the main key here.

 

Thank you.

 



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 04:34 PM

definitely 70-200mm, will be a better addition to what you already have. then later maybe I would get the 55mm F1.8.

If you want a standard zoom, I would get the Tamron 28-75mm, NOT the 24-70!



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 11:09 PM

  

Over time [decades] I've come to find 28-135mm is 

a real Goldilocks. Got at least 3 on hand right now.  

 

Here's the current version from Sony: 

  

https://www.bhphotov..._5_6_oss.html  

 

 

  

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:09 AM

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Over time [decades] I've come to find 28-135mm is
a real Goldilocks. Got at least 3 on hand right now.

Here's the current version from Sony:

https://www.bhphotov..._5_6_oss.html



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Why would you recommend him an APSC lens?? Doesnt make much sense on a FF body.

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 01:23 PM

Why would you recommend him an APSC lens?? Doesnt make much sense on a FF body.

I use my 18-135 on my A7III with no issues at all beyond cropping the sensor.Another option would be 28-75 upcoming Tamron which is hyped to be as good (or better) at half the price of the Sony 24-70.I personally would not choose the 70-200 (I own and admire this lens greatly) only because I would find it less useful than a more standard range general purpose zoom.



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Posted 19 May 2018 - 02:16 PM

I use my 18-135 on my A7III with no issues at all beyond cropping the sensor.

 

'beyond cropping', well that reduces the resolution to an ancient 10 megapixel. If use the 18-135, then use it with a cheap A6000, this will give you much better results. No point of using a FF camera.



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Posted 20 May 2018 - 02:39 PM

 

My dilemma is between 24-70 or 70-200.

 

As landscape photographer with already 16-35mm, which one would be your next choice?

Please consider only the focal length which is the main key here.

 

 

 

Currently, when I travel, I have 3 lenses with me for every trip.  I use 24-120/4, 55/1.8 and 70-200/4, and the 24-120 is on the body most of the time when walking around.  That said, I've found 24 bit on the narrow side for some of the landscape and probably will pick up something wider - but not too wide to limit optical distortion.  Also would like something at least f2.0 as I plan to use it indoors.

 

So with all that, I've found 70-200 is essential for landscape.  Its not intuitive but wide angle just doesn't capture some of the images that need to be closer for details and composition.  As one have noted above, picking up 55 or 50 would be a great gap filler since you can always crop 35 to 55/50, and 50/55 to 70 FOV without too much loss of pixel count.

 

Good luck.



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Posted 20 May 2018 - 05:33 PM

Why would you recommend him an APSC lens?? Doesnt make much sense on a FF body.

 

Altho that CAN be done, I did misread the page during my 

search for a current FF 28-135. DREADFUL embarrassing 

but if you can settle for 12MP it will work, and acoarst thaz  

for cropping a 24MP camera. An "R" body would provide a 

lot more pixels. [The OP does not specify which FF body.]

  

But again, apologies for that link :-( 

 

It seems the 28-135 range is disappearing from stills gear, 

replaced by the 24-105, gaining about 15% improvement 

on the wide end at a cost of 30% loss on the long end. Not 

so appealing in my view. Even tho I do own a 24-105/4.0,

it's not getting much use. 

 

Seems the makers feel the buyers prefer 24mm at the wide 

end, vs 28mm, to such a degree that a loss at the long end 

is good marketing. All I'll say about that is "the 24-120/4.0 

the main reason I even own a clunky Nikon SLR ... and if 

Nikon can do it, everyone else can as well". After all, it's not 

as if camera companies are crafting their own lenses these 

daays. Thaz history, along with the wondrous 28-135 that 

replaced the previously ubiquitous 35-135 with a happily 

wider short end without sacrificing the long end. Nikon did 

retreat back to 120mm to offer another increment on the 

short end, and I can live with that [AND the distortion .....]



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Posted 20 May 2018 - 05:49 PM



...... 3 lenses with me for every trip.  I use 24-120/4,

55/1.8 and 70-200/4, and the 24-120 is on the body

most of the time when walking around.................

  

Are you saying that the 24-120 is on a Sony 

FF body ? I would looooove to put my Nikon 

24-120 ... the only 24-120 I've ever heard of ... 

on my Sonys. 

 

If you use that Nikon lens on Sonys I'd verrrry 

much appreciate knowing what adapter[s] you 

favor, and what compromises they've brought .  

 

In particular, is the "VR" still functional ? If so, 

the lens could also serve as a useful "35-180" 

on my non-IBIS APS-C Sonys :-) 

 

 

TIA !



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Posted 21 May 2018 - 04:29 PM



  

Are you saying that the 24-120 is on a Sony 

FF body ? I would looooove to put my Nikon 

24-120 ... the only 24-120 I've ever heard of ... 

on my Sonys. 

 

If you use that Nikon lens on Sonys I'd verrrry 

much appreciate knowing what adapter[s] you 

favor, and what compromises they've brought .  

 

In particular, is the "VR" still functional ? If so, 

the lens could also serve as a useful "35-180" 

on my non-IBIS APS-C Sonys :-) 

 

 

TIA !

 

Yes I am using Nikkor 24-120/f4 with Commlite firmware v6 on a7Rii.

 

The lens performance is excellent.  AF works best with center focus (only uses phase detection - no contrast) and performs at about 90% of native speed, when compared to my D500.

 

VR does not work at all for me but I've read others that say it does.  The main difference being I use back button focus, whereas those that say works have the focus tied to the shutter button.  I have not bothered to experiment to see if that's a true statement, however.

 

Often if I am just grabbing the camera on the go, I make sure that the 24-120 lens is on. 

 

As a side note, I also use 300/4 PF on a7Rii and works 99% of the time quite well.  The 1% of the time, it freezes and I have to dismount the lens with the adapter and remount. It takes couple of seconds and it happens occasionally, but having a sharp 300 prime is huge on the 42mp body.



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Posted 22 May 2018 - 07:36 AM

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Thanks very much.  

  

No VR with BBAF is my deal breaker. 

You save me the trouble of returning 

yet one more adapter. 

 




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