Shot. Result. Preview not working on A7iii

[ManuelBeck]

Hi,

this is my first post on this forum and English isnt my first language so please be gentle

 

I made the switch from Nikon to Sony. One of the key features that attracted me towards Sony was the EVF and the resulting "What you see is what you get" in the live view.

 

My gear:

 

A7iii + Godox V860ii S or Xpro S both as masters. (Several GM and G lenses)

 

My problem:

 

As soon as I attach and turn on my flash unit or trigger, the camera overrides the "setting effects ON". That means I no longer get a real representation of the ambient exposure but a "simulated" exposure in the viewfinder. I get that they do that in order to be able to still see something when using strobes in very dark environments, but I am wedding photographer and mostly use my Flash as a fill or for creative effects. I would love to still be able to see just the ambient exposure so that I can expose for that and add the fill flash. 

I`ve read on several sites that to overcome that "problem" some people use the Shot Result Preview mapped to a custom button. That would be a nice workaround but in my case IN DOESNT WORK. All it changes is a tiny bit of exposure if I really increase F-stop numbers. But when I compare the resulting exposure using this function to the exposure resulting in turning the flash off (or with the picture taken), it doesnt match at all. Also, Shutterspeed and ISO changes dont influence the exposure using Shot Result Preview. 

 

My question:

Does anyone experience the same problem with their A7iii?

Is there a setting I have missed which interferes maybe?

Is there a known issue or bug with the A7iii?

[narydon1]

Just migrated to Sony A7iii from Nikon.

 

Gears: Sony A7iii + GM Lenses + Godox Xpro S + v350s + ad200

 

As a wedding photographer this is very frustrating. Tried mapping the Shot Result Preview as many suggested and not seeing any differences in the exposure. This really defeats the purpose of the “Setting Effects On.”

 

Can we get some help from the community please.

[Username]

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Why not just take a test frame ? 

  

That way you'll even get to see 

the effect of the fill flash, etc. 

   

It's easy, cheap, and no messy

toxic polaroid trash to discard :-)

[ManuelBeck]

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Why not just take a test frame ? 

  

That way you'll even get to see 

the effect of the fill flash, etc. 

   

It's easy, cheap, and no messy

toxic polaroid trash to discard :-)

 

I dont understand what you are saying? Whats the point in doing that? It would take shots to nail the exposure and the EVF would be useless.

 

 

Just migrated to Sony A7iii from Nikon.

 

Gears: Sony A7iii + GM Lenses + Godox Xpro S + v350s + ad200

 

As a wedding photographer this is very frustrating. Tried mapping the Shot Result Preview as many suggested and not seeing any differences in the exposure. This really defeats the purpose of the “Setting Effects On.”

 

Can we get some help from the community please.

 

ok guys, I narrowed down the bug causing the issue after trying every possible combination. Try turning OFF Antiflicker (Menue 1 Page14). Also, if you turn silent shooting on and off again you have turn off and turn on the flash or camera again for it to apply settings effect on. Also you wont be able to autofocus while holding down Shot. result preview.

[Guest Jaf-Photo]

Think about it. You are asking for the EVF to do the same thing as the OVF did on your Nikon.

 

The EVF won't change the fact that you'll need tests shots to check your settings.

[ManuelBeck]

Think about it. You are asking for the EVF to do the same thing as the OVF did on your Nikon.

 

The EVF won't change the fact that you'll need tests shots to check your settings.

 

No, its the other way around. I am asking the EVF to do the same thing its always doing and to not change when a flash is attached. Please reread my post.

[tinplater]

No, its the other way around. I am asking the EVF to do the same thing its always doing and to not change when a flash is attached. Please reread my post.

I almost never use flash, but I recall I would just turn off the flash momentarily, evaluate the ambient exposure, adjust, and then start the flash up again.  However test shots were still in order to judge the overall balance of ambient and fill.

[Guest Jaf-Photo]

No, its the other way around. I am asking the EVF to do the same thing its always doing and to not change when a flash is attached. Please reread my post.

Nah, you're asking for the EVF to show ambient light which is what the OVF does.

 

The thought of having real time WYSIWYG for flash photography without triggering the flash in a test shot is flawed.

[ManuelBeck]

Nah, you're asking for the EVF to show ambient light which is what the OVF does.

 

The thought of having real time WYSIWYG for flash photography without triggering the flash in a test shot is flawed.

 

NO, I want it to IGNORE the flash. I want it to NOT take into account the flash for anything. If you pick up a a7iii the first day and look through the EVF what do you see? You see the ambient exposure (if you have setting effects on enabled). I want to do the exact same thing when a flash is attached but the camera is ignoring "settings effect on" when the anti flicker option is set to on.

[tinplater]

NO, I want it to IGNORE the flash. I want it to NOT take into account the flash for anything. If you pick up a a7iii the first day and look through the EVF what do you see? You see the ambient exposure (if you have setting effects on enabled). I want to do the exact same thing when a flash is attached but the camera is ignoring "settings effect on" when the anti flicker option is set to on.

I couldn't get the EVF to display the ambient exposure with flash on and flicker option off.  To my mind, the simplest solution is to press the power button on the flash to off, check EVF, press the power button on.  Just a simple button press to achieve what you want.

[Designic]

If anyone is still following, this is helpful. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR4u-sNXTtc

 

[Fotosmani]

Unfortunately there is no proper fix for this. The only work around is to turn the anti-flicker off and then you can use the shot preview to give you the ambient exposure but you cannot use auto focus or change ss/aperture while holding the assigned shot preview button. It's better than nothing. 

[Omar Gonzalez]

One possible solution (if you shoot manual flash) is to shoot with a Canon version of your flash.  (I sometimes use my Canon godox on the sony a7iii).  You then will be able to toggle between Live View Setting: SETTING EFFECT ON which allows you to only see ambient light WITH the flash on.  This is useful if you have enough ambient to see through the viewfinder.  Then you can toggle to SETTING EFFECT OFF when you want the EVF to brighten up and give you night vision.  

No need for "SHOT RESULT PREVIEW"

 

Hope that helps

Edited August 8, 2019 by Omar Gonzalez

[dbmiller]

There's also a bug/feature if anti-flicker mode is on, then shot result result preview doesn't work properly.

[JeffJ]

I experience the same frustration. The work arounds are not viable for my work flow. I shoot tethered to a tablet while shooting interiors. Often the camera is in a position where I cannot be near it because of reflection, mirror or space around the camera. I take multiple exposures, so touching the camera to turn something off/on or touching the flash trigger to turn off/on can introduce potential misalignment from frame to frame. I need to be able to trigger my camera remotely for both my ambient and flash frames. Having the camera automatically show what it predicts a flashed image to be in the EVF is a terrible handicap. I need to be able to meter the ambient and expose for highlights in a scene and when the flash trigger is on and connected, it does not allow me to get that realistic view. I understand why Sony has this setup because it can be helpful in studio situations where you know you'll be shooting at SS/200 to kill the light, which usually leaves the EVF dark, but there are a lot of other situations where turning this off (and leaving it off) would help the workflow of other professionals just as much. 

Sony- please fix with an update so we have the choice to use it or not!!!

Edited November 15, 2019 by JeffJ

[Andresflu]

I have a Sony A7 III and (unfortunately) I think there are no good photographers working on the development of these cameras. There is no other explanation for such silly mistakes. Or they are good photographers but they are stupid. One more stupid BIG mistake. The focus point is.... what color ? GREY !!!!