MrsRish Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 I'm new to photography and really don't know where to go for direction. But my main issue today is I'm in Mississippi and it's snowing!!! This is rare and I would love to take some pictures... good pictures. I have a Sony a6000, if anyone could just help me with settings, I would really appreciate it. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chrissie Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Be sure to have your battery fully charged, then set camera to "auto" (green symbol): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Image taken from Sony product page. Point and shoot. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Image taken from Sony product page. Point and shoot. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.sonyalphaforum.com/topic/8357-sony-a6000-beginner/?do=findComment&comment=36987'>More sharing options...
tinplater Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 There are literally scores of helpful youtube tutorials that will help you learn visually and with practice the exciting potential of your camera. Go to you tube and search sony a6000 tutorial and you can review the help there. Gary Fong, John Sison, the Northrups are all experts that present their information in a concise and clear manner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissie Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 There are literally scores of helpful youtube tutorials that will help you learn visually and with practice the exciting potential of your camera. Go to you tube and search sony a6000 tutorial and you can review the help there. Gary Fong, John Sison, the Northrups are all experts that present their information in a concise and clear manner. @tinplater: of course you're absolutely right if you want to teach her how to learn it right. But, as I understand it, snowfall in Mississippi is such a rare occurrance, that I thought there was no time for any lengthy explanations. Otherwise she'd have missed this opportunity. MrsRish 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaf-Photo Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 It's never too soon or too late to learn a bit about how the camera actually works. Snowy scenes often lead to underexposed (dark) photos. That's because a large part of the frame is white, but the automatic light metering system thinks it should be medium grey. Therefore, the camera reduces exposure until the snow looks grey. But it is also easy to get over-exposed parts of the picture, if there are differences in the lighting. What you should do is to check the histogram: https://www.picture-power.com/images/histogrammeasureswithwords3.jpg If the auto setting gives you a normal exposure, you can use it. But if it gives you an underexposure or over-exposure, you should switch to manual settings and make adjustments until you get a normal histogram. It's also good to use raw because you can make adjustments on the ckmputer afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 It's never too soon or too late to learn a bit about how the camera actually works. Snowy scenes often lead to underexposed (dark) photos. That's because a large part of the frame is white, but the automatic light metering system thinks it should be medium grey. Therefore, the camera reduces exposure until the snow looks grey. But it is also easy to get over-exposed parts of the picture, if there are differences in the lighting. What you should do is to check the histogram: https://www.picture-power.com/images/histogrammeasureswithwords3.jpg If the auto setting gives you a normal exposure, you can use it. But if it gives you an underexposure or over-exposure, you should switch to manual settings and make adjustments until you get a normal histogram. It's also good to use raw because you can make adjustments on the ckmputer afterwards. I just checked. Thaz NOT a problem. It's snowing right now [not rare here, but first of the season] and I have an a6000 and the green mode insists on the matrix metering pattern and so is not confused by snow. Point & shoot. MrsRish 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaf-Photo Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 The SCN mode must use the whole matrix, that's one thing. Another thing is whether the camera corrects for underexpose in snow. I just don't know because I never use SCN - and I would never listen to anyone who suggested it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RathPhoto Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 So much power in these cameras using auto mode seems disrespectful. For some shots, I find going 1 stop bright on the exposure meter is near bang on for final shot exposure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RathPhoto Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 So much power in these cameras using auto mode seems disrespectful. For some shots, I find going 1 stop bright on the exposure meter is near bang on for final shot exposure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissie Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 So much power in these cameras using auto mode seems disrespectful. The lady who started this post was new to photography, yet wanted to take good pictures immediately, because of a rare opportunity. She seems to have owned the camera for a while already, but never bothered to familiarize herself with it. And now she finally was motivated to use it for the 1st time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaf-Photo Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I agree that there's an argument for using an auto mode in this case. I just threw in a bit about the histogram to provide an opportunity to learn at the same time. However, snowy scenes are typically a challenge for auto modes. Auto modes tend to get both exposure and colour temperature wrong. That means you,ll end up with a weird tint on the snow and some areas that are burnt out without any detail. I don't know if A6500 has any improvements in this regard, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaf-Photo Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 So much power in these cameras using auto mode seems disrespectful. For some shots, I find going 1 stop bright on the exposure meter is near bang on for final shot exposure. Indeed. I would never tell anyone to use auto modes. I would tell them how to work the settings. If they were unwilling to do so, I would tell them to sell the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 The SCN mode must use the whole matrix, that's one thing. Another thing is whether the camera corrects for underexpose in snow. I just don't know because I never use SCN - and I would never listen to anyone who suggested it. The matrix system and green mode seem to be programmed to "realize" that a snow field or large bright sky is NOT really the subject to reduce to middle gray. It's not hard to imagine many simple algoriddms that "warn" the meter about it. And it works. One small piece I DO know about: If the exposure for the average of the complete frame would close the iris or speed the shutter past "sunny 16" level, the matrix doubts the reading and checks the "regional" readings, seeking another more likely probable subject to expose for. The weird tint you mention is a typical problem but is rather easy to fix in post. OTOH gross underexposure is fatal. If the green mode allows raw+jpeg that would also be a good safety net, even if it would take weeks or month before the user has the skill to go back and rescue the shot. IIRC, image quality is allowed to be set independent of mode choice. Like yourself, I have no use for SCN modes ... worst offence is that they undo back button AF. But for a noob who has a a rare and vanishing subject to handle immediately, the SCN system and/or green mode will deliver the snow as snow and not as soot :-) I didn't check, but very likely there is either a "beach" or "snow" choice in the SCN selections. Point and Shoot has come a loooong way. It may not allow any personal "artistry" but it does avoid common errors such as snow and backlighting. This has been true for decades at this time. I tested the 9 zone matrix on my Maxxum 9 back in the dark ages of film. AMAZING. And that was waaaay crude in comparison to today. I knew every trick to confuse an AE system and its resistance to my efforts was most impressive. Acoarst, I never used the matrix after testing it ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRish Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 I know now why I never got into forums for help. Always a critic, a judge or a jerk in the group. Whether, I have spent 2 weeks, 2 months or 2 years trying to figure out my camera, should have no place in responses to my original question for help to take picture of snow. Merry Christmas and yes the snow is gone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaf-Photo Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Yup, the old Minolta film cameras were the best for photographing snowy scenes, thanks to their matrix metering. But in those days, the wide exposure latitude of films helped too. Anyway, I accept the premise of this thread. I just couldn't contain my disdain for auto features. I need to mellow out a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 ......... Whether, I have spent 2 weeks, 2 months or 2 years trying to figure out my camera, should have no place in responses to my original question for help to take picture of snow. ...... Even tho I myself am one of the respondents who kept to the theme of the thread, that being that a beginner needs an easy answer to an immediate situation, I find your remark quoted above to be total bullschidt. It is you yourself who titled this thread, making your inexperience a centerpiece of the conversation. As to the photograph that you might possibly have failed to execute successfully, or maybe you did mange to get a successful result, the real problem is one of "much ado about nothing". Snow in Mississippi may be rare, but no amount of technical success in executing the photo will assure that the picture actually tells that story. While the camera can be counted upon to do its job, conveying a message of the specialness of any event is entirely the user's job. It is no stretch of the imagination to say that those who are experienced and able at conveying the message are bound be those who already know how to use their gear, the desire to communicate going hand-in-hand with the drive to use the gear and know it well. IOW chances are that any images not successfully made of the event are images that were never going to convey the message of the event even if the images were technically OK. So, a case of no harm, no foul. A lack of visual communication skills cannot be remedied by robotic imaging machines. To show someone a souvenier shot of snow and to tell them "this snow is rare in Mississippi" is no better than having no picture and telling them "I saw some snow in Mississippi". Pictures prove nothing. And if you have to narrate the picture, then it also says nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 .......... I need to mellow out a bit. Oh sure. Just abandon me. Leave me to be the only grumpy, self-righteous, disdainful SOB around here ..... Pieter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaf-Photo Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Oh sure. Just abandon me. Leave me to be the only grumpy, self-righteous, disdainful SOB around here ..... TBH we'd both fill that niche single-handedly I'm trying a new approach, though, with less grump. Last week I failed but today a new week starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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