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Theoretically, the A9R slot is still open. That could be a very high res camera, which doesn't focus much on speed.

 

But for people use A7R2 for paid work, the A7R3 fixes most of the limitations. So that is a good thing.

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Did anyone out there recently purchase an A7Rii and now have plans to sell it for the A7Riii?

 

I purchased an Rii in May (which I'm really happy with), but I wasn't sure deprecation wise what was worse: putting the camera through its paces for the next few years or preordering the A7Riii and selling the A7rii within a few weeks? I feel like the latter will put me on pace to reduce the depreciation hit during latter upgrades.

 

 

Any input is appreciated?

I too bought mine in May and am considering that too.

 

I’m very tempted to sell my r2 now, and risk going cameraless until the r3 arrives. I foresee the depreciation to be more then.

 

I love the fact that the r3 allows me to review my images while it’s still writing. The 10 FPS is great too.... I’m still not sure what’s the next step for me...

 

Bummer....

 

 

 

 

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If you'll make good use of the new features in the Mk3 it's probably worth selling straight away. Otherwise, you'll be competing against all the other sellers.

 

If you don't need the features, you'll have a perfectly good camera in the Mk2.

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Not saying discussions like this one are useless .... many 

things get hashed out. But the general idea of this type of 

questioning misses the essence of why such incremental   

upgrades are constantly introduced.   

   

Every maker's R&D department has all of your wants and 

dreams already worked out, but they only groom smallish 

incremental changes for production, little by little, edging 

out each other's competing models to reach for increased 

market share. If you are already using a maker's product 

line, you are NOT the priority target of their incremental

upgrades ... so acoarst you'll find them somewhat lacking 

in reasons to suffer depreciation and make the small yet  

expensive leap. Yes, SOME in the user base will do it but 

thaz just bonus sales. Priority is the users of competitive 

gear and users stepping up from really entry level stuff. 

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I cancelled my order for the a7rlll as a landscape photographer. In my opinion there is nothing to motivate me to replace my A7Rll.

I am not to lazy to take 15 seconds to change a camera battery. I have never in my life had a memory card fail so why pay for the duel memory card feature? Faster focusing, don’t care! The Pixel Shift feature is worthless for landscapes because 98% of the time something is moving the the scene. NO IMPROVEMENT IN IMAGE QUALITY. OBVIOUSLY THIS NEW CAMERA WAS NOT BUILT TO IMPROVE LANDSCAPE PHOTOGRAPHY. The improvements are for portraits and architecture photography. I pass on this new a7rlll camera.

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@Photoman - The wider picture (haha) is that Sony is making the A7RIII a better allround camera. That will be good for most users and for Sony. If you are specialised in one type of photography, landscape, you sould acknowledge that your needs are different from the majority of users. And to be fair, landscapers were already served by the A7R Mk I and II.

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Landscape shooters NEED new cameras for

some excitement in their photography life cuz

their subject is so damnt BORING.  

   

   

* Ducks & Covers *  

The word is "damn, or damned," and landscape photography is not the least bit boring.  It can require considerable creativity, occasional exotic and or dangerous travel, and a good eye for composition.  I should mention that I do not use my Sony for landscape (and will not be purchasing the new A7r III) ... to that end, I have purchased the incredible, Fuji, large sensor.

 

Addendum: I have just noticed that the two camera references in my post have been hijacked with links to entirely unrelated sites. I will attempt to remedy same—it was a no go.  Well, it appears that any reference to a "camera" results in its being linked to some form of advertising, and the only solution is to codify the post. Probably the work of sophomoric Neanderthals.  Not cool, guys. 

  

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No subject is boring. It's up to the photographer to make an interesting photo; or not.

 

The challenge with landscape photography is that most people find photos of people more interesting to look at.

 

Personally, I find it difficult to engage with landscape photography. Being outdoors is a total sensory experience that a photo rarely manages to evoke.

 

But we digress, this thread is about A7R3. I thought the original A7R was a pretty good landscape camera. No bells or whistles but very detailed images with good colour. They should be getting really affordable now.

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Or it's from people who use the gear constantly and would like other improvements in terms of the imaging itself. To imply that users don't understand or appreciate the other feature updates is silly. I make my living with this camera. I get why the new one is better. I also get that for me, and many other users I know, these features will make little practical difference, and are not compelling enough to update - because the main reason we bought in to the camera line to begin with has been mostly ignored for this current update. 

so you're saying buy the a7rii, currently dicounted?

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Without doubts the new camera is better, but shooting mainly landscape and portraits, I am not so much sensitive to this. Yes 10 fps is great but not absolutely necessary. And yes a new

battery is quite an improvement but I already use a grip with my A7 RII. Dynamic range, which is very important for me (may be the first reason why I bought the RII) has also improved a little and also IBIS, but not to such an extent that it makes a big difference. Then there is the pixel shift, but for a limited use and no possibility to check the result in the camera.

 

For the future, I might not want a big increase in pixel count but certainly a new generation of sensor with better color quality and DR.

However, I am glad to see Sony moving on and I shall wait for the A7 RIV !

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I use an A7R2 & A7S2 for making landscape time lapse films- mainly astrophotography. One thing I can add to this discussion is the fact that the A7R3 does not accept the Playmemories time lapse app- as well as nearly all other apps. The time lapse app has evolved a great deal since it's inception and, particularly in custom mode which is what I use, has quite robust capabilities, such as auto exposure ramping. Exposure ramping for time lapse is a BIG DEAL! I was seriously considering buying a R3 as a third camera for my projects but lack of support for that app was a deal breaker, coupled with the fact that the R2 was just discounted this week to $2,398. and it was a no brainer. Yesterday, I called B&H and another R2 it is! For those of you that think that it would be simple to just use an external intervalometer, think again. One that will do exposure ramping will run about $400. and is- as of last time I checked- incapable of writing to the in camera memory card. The card has to be placed in the unit itself requiring considerably more time to transfer each image to the card.

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My problem with the 24-105 is the 24-70 2.8 produces such stellar shots that it would be hard to give up the wide aperture just to gain 70-105...

I have had experience with 2.8 zooms and have zero problems pitching them in favor of the smaller and more flexible f4 zooms.

I can compensate with ISO but cropping is a greater compromise on IQ than ISO.

 

One pays a lot extra for f2.8 in cash and weight and reduced range.

 

The 24-105 was a joy when I had one in Canon-world and I am delighted that Sony now has one that seems to be a very able performer with a much lighter weight than the Canikon alternatives.

I do have to say that the Nikon 24-120 remains the best in the field because of the extra reach.

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Only a number, or for some - the most important number.

If you're regularly printing 24x36 up to 40x60, it is nice to have. The other changes are significant for a pretty small subset of people that usually don't need high resolution - imo. When I was a working photojournalist I would have appreciated those changes, but I would not be wanting anything near a 42 mp camera for daily event work. Way overkill and resource intensive. So in that respect - the A9 would be the preferred solution.

I come from the Canon world where I used 13MP 5D up to 50MP 5DsR.

 

I am an architectural photographer that has clients regularly print my images up to eight feet wide for their offices.

 

The res is useful to a point but in truth, if one is shooting for large print the improvement is slight and scarcely visible to the average viewer.

However, I will grant that the hobbyist uninterested in the opinion of the layperson and delights in zooming in to 800%. For them, the more MP the better.

 

If I am called upon to shoot events I use a 20MP 1 inch Panasonic as it has 15fps, leaf shutter and weighs about 2 lbs. Even then the res is frantic overkill for the final web use.

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That’s likely the weather sealing. I noticed the same thing on my α9.

Thanks for the quick reply. I’m hoping it’s the weather sealing, lens changes with my A7Rii were buttery smooth: now it feels like I might damage the lens or camera if Iaccidentally squeeze in the wrong spot.

 

Did you experience the heavy resistance after turning the lens 10-15 degrees? I’m hoping it’s the weather sealing

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Just received my A7Riii and noticed that I was getting a really significant amount of resistance when attaching a Lens.

Has anyone else run into this? I think I may have received a defective camera

I experienced the same, when comparing to my A7ii.  I have the camera now a few weeks and it seems it is smoother now than when brand new. As far as I can see there is no weathersealing between body and lens flange. I guess the manufacturing specs are a bit tighter.All the buttons have a more solid feel as well. Nothing to worry about I think.

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I experienced the same, when comparing to my A7ii. I have the camera now a few weeks and it seems it is smoother now than when brand new. As far as I can see there is no weathersealing between body and lens flange. I guess the manufacturing specs are a bit tighter.All the buttons have a more solid feel as well. Nothing to worry about I think.

Mine seems a bit smoother now as well.

 

my lenses were at room temperature & the camera was really cold when delivered (around 30 degrees outside that day) so I’m thinking that the temp difference may have had a small influence on it as well

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