sony fx30 I'm very disappointed With Sony Lately

[Donny1963]

I'm very disappointed With Sony Lately, When i first got the Sony Fx30 i liked the camera but they was somethings that i have realized along the way of using it.

#1  

thing with crippling the 120 fps being only able to do 120 fps with a CFExpress type A card.
I purchased a device that enables you to record to a M.2 SSD Drive instead of an SD card or CFExpress type A card.
it works on tons of other Camera's at even 8K 30 with no problem, in fact an M.2 SSD drive is way faster than a CFExpress type A or B card.
They are just intentionally disabling the ability to record at the best settings (IE 4K 60 fps ALL intra or Even 1080P 120 fps so they can sell CFExpress type A cards, Sony owns that card and first of all it's outdated obsolete, CFExpress Type A cards are ways slower then CFExpress type B cards, and way more expensive too.
And you can't even get a 1TB CFExpress type A card, but you can for CFExpress type B card.
when they made the Sony FX30 and FX3 they should have not used the CFExpress type A at all, it's obsolete, and old technology and no where near as good as the CFExpress Type B cards.
They are Just greedy and want to make more money from selling the CFExpress type A card, at the owners of the camera's expense.
It's all about greed and they need to stop, before they lose customers, many people i know are getting pissed at Sony and sooner or later they are going to Walk away From Sony For their deceptive practices, because that is what that is.

They need to Stop this, they are walking all over their customers.
I'm getting sick of it myself, i'm not stupid i know what can be done and what can not be done, and i'm telling you, recording to a M.2 SSD is very doable, the SSD is way faster than any CFExpress card or SD card, and more reliable than SD and CFExpress cards, SSD are used in computers and do error corrections very well you would not get a defective recording ever, but you do with SD cards and CFExpress cards..
That's why professionals would rather have 2 card slots so when they do weddings or something important they want a backup because them cards are known to Fail.
SSD drives DO NOT..

#2 

Here we go again with this dishonest practices, you Can't use Shutter Angle recording Though HDMI to an external recorder, Yeah i mention that the same day i got the update when it came out.
first they screwed up the first update and pulled it off the website, because it has an issue, than they fixed that issue and put the update back that is when i downloaded it.
I waited because the first time they had an update for the FX30 / fFX3 it had issues so they did the same thing they pulled it and put a good update back up.

Sony always seems to be greedy and hold back on features.
and in this case they held back the ability to use shutter angle recording to an external recorder like the Ninjav+
Sony needs to quit doing this because they are going to lose customers, i'm seriously getting ready to switch out to another brand of camera, Sony is a nice camera don't get me wrong but the way they do business it puts a bad taste in my mouth and i don't like being screwed with..

it's as simple as that, they could very well allow shutter angle using an external recorder there is nothing special about shutter angle that the Sony FX30 or FX3 can't handle shutter angle using internal or external recording NONE.

It's time Sony gets with it and becomes Honest....

Edited January 12 by Donny1963

[Cameratose]

You can get a 1 TB Type A Express.

Brand new (and very affordable) Angelbird CFexpress 4.0 Type A Card now in Stock! | sonyalpharumors

I believe Sony uses Type A cards because they're smaller and work better with the size of Sony's camera bodies and the dual Type A/SD slots, which I prefer. 

As to the rest, it sounds to me like your needs are out of the mainstream. I reckon if I was that dissatisfied and knew of a better system for my needs, I'd move on. I kind of doubt Sony is worried about they're choices, they don't design and release products in a vacuum, they know their market. 

[Donny1963]

9 hours ago, Cameratose said:

You can get a 1 TB Type A Express.

Brand new (and very affordable) Angelbird CFexpress 4.0 Type A Card now in Stock! | sonyalpharumors

I believe Sony uses Type A cards because they're smaller and work better with the size of Sony's camera bodies and the dual Type A/SD slots, which I prefer. 

As to the rest, it sounds to me like your needs are out of the mainstream. I reckon if I was that dissatisfied and knew of a better system for my needs, I'd move on. I kind of doubt Sony is worried about they're choices, they don't design and release products in a vacuum, they know their market. 

They don't work better i used both, CFexcpress type A 1TB i found it yes but it's $500.00, i can get a 2TB SSD drive for $160.00 
do the math..

[Cameratose]

46 minutes ago, Donny1963 said:

They don't work better i used both, CFexcpress type A 1TB i found it yes but it's $500.00, i can get a 2TB SSD drive for $160.00 
do the math..

Who said they 'work better'? I said they work better with the dual Type A/SD slots and the size of Sony's bodies. Reading is FUNdamental.

Do the math? How about quit whining? You chose the system you're using, don't get angry because people aren't agreeing with you. I am perfectly happy with my choice. 

Edited January 13 by Cameratose

[Jeffreykmd]

I agree with Cameratose. You picked the system. CFexpress-type A work great. I use them without any complaints. 

Edited January 13 by Jeffreykmd

[FunWithCameras]

It seems entirely reasonable that they disable a video mode that requires a bit rate faster than any standard SD card can manage to an SD card (SD cards can be rated V30, V60, or V90) - if you try to record a video mode that would require something faster like a "V200" card then they don't let you. 

OK, you have some non-standard hack that pretends to be an SD card, but records faster - seems perfectly sensible that they don't support it considering they look at the card to know how fast a rate the card can handle. 

Pretty sure that Sony is protecting users who try to use a slow SD card to record a video mode that requires more speed than the card supports, and Sony has the camera say "you can't do that" rather than fail dismally to try to record it - can you imagine the complaints if the user got a recording that stuttered and captured a few frames then a gap then a few more frames?

Feel free to complain, but don't expect sympathy. You tried  something that isn't supported, and it didn't work.

As far as I know, Sony cameras are the only ones that support two different formats of cards, AND let you have two matching cards of either format. Every other camera that supports two formats has one of each. There are quite a few cameras that support two matching slots, but they only support one format of card (eg: the Z9 support two CFexpressB cards), so you don't have the option of a second format. I like the flexibility - I don't have have enough CFeA cards to cover everything - I can use CFeA for some and SD for others.

Yes, CFexpressA cards were fairly expensive in the beginning (back 4 years ago in the A1), and I paid a fair bit for a Sony 180GB CFeA card. But a few years later I spent the same amount for a Lexus CFeA 320GB card, and just recently I spent almost exactly the same amount for a Prograde 480FB CFeA V4 card (which is over twice as fast to load into the computer). The price falls as there is more competition. Interestingly, measurements have shown that cameras like the Z9 cannot write at full speed to their CFeB cards (presumably because they get really hot - they write only as fast as CFeA speeds 🙂

[Donny1963]

On 1/12/2025 at 7:00 PM, Cameratose said:

Who said they 'work better'? I said they work better with the dual Type A/SD slots and the size of Sony's bodies. Reading is FUNdamental.

Do the math? How about quit whining? You chose the system you're using, don't get angry because people aren't agreeing with you. I am perfectly happy with my choice. 

I have a good reason to complain, yes do the math, you buy a CFexpress type A card lets say a Sony Tough CEA-G series 650GB, that cost $848.00 to be exact.

https://www.bluewaterphotostore.com/sony-cfexpress-type-a-memory-card?sku=SON-CEAG640T&setCurrencyId=1

ok lets say you buy a crappier one from Pergear 1TB that's $799.80 to be exact, 

https://www.newegg.com/p/0UF-068T-00012

Or you can get a Angelbird AV Pro CF Express SE 1TB Memory Card

for around $500.00 from amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Angelbird-CFexpress-Largest-Capacity-Compatible/dp/B0C2XS5LVM?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A311BEHFUHRLQM&gQT=2

CFexpress type B card 

Sabrent Rocket CFX CFexpress Type B Memory Card CF-X

$249.99

https://www.amazon.com/SABRENT-CFexpress-R1700MB-W1500MB-CF-XTBT-1TB/dp/B0B1128T4T?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A2ELBRY1PH9SPX&gQT=0&th=1

Or 
ProGrade Digital CFexpress type B 4.0 

$229.99 to be exact

https://shop.progradedigital.com/products/prograde-digital-cfexpress™-type-b-4-0-memory-card-iridium?variant=44542689968375

 

By the way the prograde read speed is  3550 MB/s
read seed 3000 MB/s
 

the Sony Tough CFexpress type A card 640GB

Write speed 700MB/s

Read speed 800MB/s

So Yes type B cards are way better way faster more than 3 times faster..
CFexpress type A cards are shit technology.

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For M.2 SSD 
990 EVO plus gen4 NVME 2TB
only $139.99

sequential read/write speeds up to 7,250/6,300MB/s

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/990-evo-plus-gen5-pcie-nvmetm-ssd-2tb-mz-v9s2t0b-am/

with CFexpress type B  you get faster read and write speeds, and they are cheaper.

so yes they are better than TYPE A 
How ever with SSD way better than both.. 
YES DO THE MATH
With m.2 SSD you get way faster read and write speeds and only a fraction of the cost.

YES DO THE MATH  you know what math is?
no cfexpress type a or b card could compete with m.2 SSD 

With SSD you get 2TB at only $139.00 you can get 5 2TB SSD for the same price as one Cfexpress type a or b card 

Not sure if you like being ripped off or not but hey do or think what you want..
Your totally wrong..

 

Edited January 29 by Donny1963

[Donny1963]

On 1/12/2025 at 8:47 PM, Jeffreykmd said:

I agree with Cameratose. You picked the system. CFexpress-type A work great. I use them without any complaints. 

You can agree with cameratose all you want doesn't make it correct.
yes you use them without complaints, i didn't say they don't work.
But hey look at my reply to cameratose , as i said you like being ripped off?
 

[Donny1963]

On 1/12/2025 at 8:16 AM, Cameratose said:

You can get a 1 TB Type A Express.

Brand new (and very affordable) Angelbird CFexpress 4.0 Type A Card now in Stock! | sonyalpharumors

I believe Sony uses Type A cards because they're smaller and work better with the size of Sony's camera bodies and the dual Type A/SD slots, which I prefer. 

As to the rest, it sounds to me like your needs are out of the mainstream. I reckon if I was that dissatisfied and knew of a better system for my needs, I'd move on. I kind of doubt Sony is worried about they're choices, they don't design and release products in a vacuum, they know their market. 

that's hogwash they don't work better look at my other reply, type A cards are 3 times slower than type B
and cost more..

[Cameratose]

Are your purposely obtuse? You still haven't read the post accurately, you've only commented on what you want.

You don't like them, Sony pisses you off, we get it. You can stop defending your position to me, I don't care. If I were you, I'd sell off all my Sony gear and move on to a brand that suits you better. Or better yet, find a forum with people that will sit around and commiserate with you, since that seems to be your main desire.