Minolta 35mm f/2 A-Mount vs older Minolta 35mm 1.8 MC mount

[dclark2171]

For my street-general non-work photography, I like to use vintage lenses. The Minolta Maxxum lenses I own (from my Minolta 7000 SLR system) work great on my Sony FF cameras (Sony Adaptor).

Anyone use the Minolta A-Mount f2 and the older MC version? Any thoughts or experiences with them? I have an MC/MD adaptor as well. 

I'm not looking for super sharp, perfect lenses here. This is more about character and myself enjoying photography outside of my photography business. Thanks

 

[Cameratose]

All of the older Minolta lenses are worth a shot. I have my dad's old MC 58/1.2 and it's amazing. I use the Minolta 50/2 on my X370 when I feel like shooting film.

Coatings back then weren't great when it comes to flare and fringing, but Minolta had colors down to a science! I'm always happy with the colors I get from my old Minoltas.

[michelb]

Pictures taken with MC W.ROKKOR-X 35mm F 1.8 lens ( latest variation from around 1975-76, without the HH suffix). My favorite lens altogether for great sharpness, bokeh, 3D rendering and some nice soft look at wider apertures. That is why i have 3 copies of this lens and this would be the last ones i would sell from my collection of over 300 lenses.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55173440@N08/albums/72157673105559792/

Pictures taken with MC W.ROKKOR-HH 35mm F 1.8 lens ( MC-II version from 1969-72). Very similar results but because of the cold in my country, i prefer the rubber focusing grip of the MC-X

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55173440@N08/albums/72157674312810335/

Similar results would be attained with the MC-I version that has a smoother metal focusing ring, nt the hills and valleys of the MC-II

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55173440@N08/albums/72177720315501829/

 

Even though i still have a copy the the AF 35mm F 2 and it is very sharp, it does not have the personality of the MC ROKKOR so i have very few pictures taken with it.

[dclark2171]

9 hours ago, michelb said:

Pictures taken with MC W.ROKKOR-X 35mm F 1.8 lens ( latest variation from around 1975-76, without the HH suffix). My favorite lens altogether for great sharpness, bokeh, 3D rendering and some nice soft look at wider apertures. That is why i have 3 copies of this lens and this would be the last ones i would sell from my collection of over 300 lenses.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55173440@N08/albums/72157673105559792/

Pictures taken with MC W.ROKKOR-HH 35mm F 1.8 lens ( MC-II version from 1969-72). Very similar results but because of the cold in my country, i prefer the rubber focusing grip of the MC-X

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55173440@N08/albums/72157674312810335/

Similar results would be attained with the MC-I version that has a smoother metal focusing ring, nt the hills and valleys of the MC-II

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55173440@N08/albums/72177720315501829/

 

Even though i still have a copy the the AF 35mm F 2 and it is very sharp, it does not have the personality of the MC ROKKOR so i have very few pictures taken with it.

Thanks for the links. The 1.8 X images have fantastic colors

[michelb]

2 hours ago, dclark2171 said:

Thanks for the links. The 1.8 X images have fantastic colors

Most were taken using Daylight White Balance. since often times with vintage lenses, AWB gets fooled  and produces yellow cast that does not show when using fixed white balance.

[dclark2171]

2 hours ago, michelb said:

Most were taken using Daylight White Balance. since often times with vintage lenses, AWB gets fooled  and produces yellow cast that does not show when using fixed white balance.

You are correct. My Minolta Beer Can lens seems to give off an orange hue (so very slight) in auto AWBI. Generally shoot RAW anyway or in Camera B&W Jpegs.

[Cameratose]

I'm in the process of slimming down my A-Mounts, mostly because I just need to thin out my stuff. I've sold some, still have some left. Most are the typical stuff like a beercan, 75-300, etc. One that I had planned to keep but have since decided to let go is the 80-200 f/2.8 APO HS G. Fantastic lens, I just don't use it anymore. I bought it from a Japanese dealer a couple of years back.

One that I don't plan to get rid of is the 500/8 AF Reflex. An amazing reflex lens with really good image quality. And how could you not have fun with an AF Reflex? It even works for action shots!

 

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[XKAES]

On 12/5/2024 at 7:59 PM, michelb said:

Pictures taken with MC W.ROKKOR-X 35mm F 1.8 lens ( latest variation from around 1975-76, without the HH suffix). My favorite lens altogether for great sharpness, bokeh, 3D rendering and some nice soft look at wider apertures. That is why i have 3 copies of this lens and this would be the last ones i would sell from my collection of over 300 lenses.

I have an MC W. Rokkor-X HH 35mm f1.8 -- with the HH -- and if I only had one lens, that's it!  (The only other 35mm I have is a Rokkor-X 35mm f2.8 -- nice and small.)

I like them both on my a850 with a converter which makes it about a 45mm f1.8 -- which is also great.

Much depends on how important auto-focusing is.  My converter is "chipped" so at least I get the green focus-confirmation LED in the viewfinder.

Edited December 7, 2024 by XKAES

[Cameratose]

1 hour ago, XKAES said:

I have an MC W. Rokkor-X HH 35mm f1.8 -- with the HH -- and if I only had one lens, that's it!  (The only other 35mm I have is a Rokkor-X 35mm f2.8 -- nice and small.)

I like them both on my a850 with a converter which makes it about a 45mm f1.8 -- which is also great.

Much depends on how important auto-focusing is.  My converter is "chipped" so at least I get the green focus-confirmation LED in the viewfinder.

What kind of converter changes a 35/1.8 to a 45/1.8? 

[XKAES]

Mine.  It's magnification is 1.2X.  Converters vary in their magnification.

[Cameratose]

51 minutes ago, XKAES said:

Mine.  It's magnification is 1.2X.  Converters vary in their magnification.

Does it use the filter threads or the lens mount? 

[XKAES]

All of my lens adapters/converters are between the lens and the camera.  Some are DUMB, some are CHIPPED.  Some have glass, some do not.

[Cameratose]

Ok, thanks. Is there any reason you're being so arcane? I am interested in an adapter that magnifies 1.2x. Can you tell me who makes it? I've done searches and can't find one. 

[Pieter]

18 hours ago, XKAES said:

with a converter which makes it about a 45mm f1.8

3 hours ago, XKAES said:

All of my lens adapters/converters are between the lens and the camera.

In this case it's more like a 45mm F/2.2 instead of F1.8 as the entrance pupil size stays the same.

[XKAES]

1 hour ago, Pieter said:

In this case it's more like a 45mm F/2.2 instead of F1.8 as the entrance pupil size stays the same.

I hadn't thought about that.  You're absolutely right -- no big deal though.

As to the "white balance" issue.  I just ran a quick test.  It's a totally overcast day, and I took shots with the 35mm f1.8 with AWB & CLOUDY.  There was a big difference between them, and the CLOUDY setting was the winner.  I then used a similar MAXXUM lens and did the same test.  There still was a noticeable difference, but it was not quite as pronounced.

The moral is no matter what lens you are using assume AWB is just a "good guesstimate".  If you can, take a few sample shots with settings other than AWB and see if they need "light" adjustment.  With my a850 & a900, I can take a PREVIEW shot and adjust the light on the screen easily.

[Cameratose]

13 minutes ago, XKAES said:

I hadn't thought about that.  You're absolutely right -- no big deal though.

As to the "white balance" issue.  I just ran a quick test.  It's a totally overcast day, and I took shots with the 35mm f1.8 with AWB & CLOUDY.  There was a big difference between them, and the CLOUDY setting was the winner.  I then used a similar MAXXUM lens and did the same test.  There still was a noticeable difference, but it was not quite as pronounced.

The moral is no matter what lens you are using assume AWB is just a "good guesstimate".  If you can, take a few sample shots with settings other than AWB and see if they need "light" adjustment.  With my a850 & a900, I can take a PREVIEW shot and adjust the light on the screen easily.

Not going to respond then? 

[XKAES]

3 hours ago, Cameratose said:

Ok, thanks. Is there any reason you're being so arcane? I am interested in an adapter that magnifies 1.2x. Can you tell me who makes it? I've done searches and can't find one. 

If your question wasn't so obtuse, you would have received a more specific response. 

Most adapters fail to mention their magnification -- don't ask me why -- but adapter magnifications (for the same two mounts) are not all the same -- I also don't know why that is the case.

I have tried several adapters, and sold off several as well, and have several now.  I only kept the ones that work for my purposes.  The only one that has a name on it is a Spiratone adapter without any glass.  I kept it because unlike most adapters that I have seen -- without glass -- as simply the same adapter with the glass removed, but without the glass HOLDER removed.  This can cause vignetting.  The Spiratone model that I have does not have the glass holder.

It's easy enough to figure out the magnification of any adapter, but unfortunately you have to have it in hand and run some tests.  That's what I did.  It sure would be easier if manufacturers provided more details, but they don't -- don't ask me why.

[Cameratose]

Obtuse? My question was very clear: Who made your adapter? See? You were even able to decode it. 

[XKAES]

On 12/7/2024 at 5:01 PM, Cameratose said:

What kind of converter changes a 35/1.8 to a 45/1.8? 

Obtuse.

[Pieter]

Technically the question wasn't so obtuse at all: the way @XKAES wrote it (35mm f/1.8 converted to 45mm f/1.8) suggested that he's using a 1.2× front end teleconverter. These are very rare (non-existent?) and usually of poor quality. So I can totally understand the question if someone is getting good results with these. Hence @Cameratose's follow up request for clarification:

On 12/8/2024 at 3:32 AM, Cameratose said:

Does it use the filter threads or the lens mount? 

Edited December 9, 2024 by Pieter

[Cameratose]

Still the same old Xkaes. Obstinate, argumentative, and has to be right, always.  🤣🤣 

Edited December 9, 2024 by Cameratose

[dclark2171]

I'm using the Sony adaptor for my A mount lenses.