ex351d Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I have the kit lens 16-50pz and I have bought quite a bit of other lenses. I have tried to avoid this decision but now I think that I should upgrade my kit lens next to a better lens to avoid frequent lens changes as I do not like the kit lens. I am not sure if the SEL1670Z or the SELP18105G is better in general for photography. I cannot rent locally nor can I buy with a return policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Username Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 ........ better in general for photography. ...... "in general", 18-105 ..... It's a 6X zoom, not a crazy huge ratio, but is distinctly greater than most midrange zooms. Both lenses you mention have the "goldilocks" non-vary max aperture for zooms. The Zeiss blue label on Sony OEM lenses does not bring any miracles [from experience]. If video is any concern, you'll like the PZ of of the 18-105 and for "in general" you can ignore the PZ and use the normal zoom ring. Unlike your PZ kit lens, the 18-105 has TWO control rings :-) It takes up a bit more space in your bag than the 24-70 but, unlike the 24-70, the 18-105 does NOT grow longer as you zoom it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex351d Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 "in general", 18-105 ..... It's a 6X zoom, not a crazy huge ratio, but is distinctly greater than most midrange zooms. Both lenses you mention have the "goldilocks" non-vary max aperture for zooms. The Zeiss blue label on Sony OEM lenses does not bring any miracles [from experience]. If video is any concern, you'll like the PZ of of the 18-105 and for "in general" you can ignore the PZ and use the normal zoom ring. Unlike your PZ kit lens, the 18-105 has TWO control rings :-) It takes up a bit more space in your bag than the 24-70 but, unlike the 24-70, the 18-105 does NOT grow longer as you zoom it. The 18-105 seems like a great lens. The drawbacks I can think of are the 2mm wider of the 16-70. Also, the A6000 battery life is not great and the PZ uses the battery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 The 18-105 seems like a great lens. The drawbacks I can think of are the 2mm wider of the 16-70. Also, the A6000 battery life is not great and the PZ uses the battery. The 2mm is up to you. The zoom will not eat up battery life when using the conventional zoom control ring. PZ is mainly for video, unless you just love the "gee whiz" effect in your viewfinder :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyBrewster Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 When faced with that decision I went with the 16-70 mainly because the 18-105 has a long minimum focus distance that I didn't like. Not being able to buy with a return policy is a hangup, though. I got my 16-70 used (excellent condition), with a 1-week return / 6 month warranty from the store, so I could make sure it was a good copy. Luckily, it is a great copy and I think it's great lens, and optically superior to the 18-105 especially considering its size. Even now that there's a new 18-135, which is probably the first lens you should check out if you haven't purchased yet, I don't regret spending the extra money on the 16-70 at all, because it has the best IQ of the native APS-C wide-mid zooms and I like having 16mm. I think it's the best standard zoom lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glowinthedark Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I had the 18-105 and it wasn't a bad lens. For roughly 500€ you can't make anything wrong there. But I do now have the new 18-135 (also posted a short test here in the forum since there aren't many real world tests available right now) I have to admit that the new on is clearly the better option for stills. If video is your primary concern, there is nothing comparable to the 18-105 due to it's motor zoom. In terms of pure image quality, the new one is clearly the winner and even brings more reach. Pair that one with the 10-18mm lens and you are probably set for some time and prepared for most photographic situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaf-Photo Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Both lenses are optically compromised and most of all lack uniformity across the frame. Expect high distortion, heavy vignetting, visible chromatic aberration and blurry corners. If you only want the zoom for convenience then you might put up with the optical defects. If you really care about image quality, you may want to spend some more on the 24-105 or 24-70 GM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMac Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 My recently acquired (refurbished) 16-55mm lens 'failed' after about 1 week, with the lens in 'stuck out' position. I thought I was just unlucky until I Googled the communication error message that came up on the camera screen and saw, to my alarm, that lots of folks have suffered failures of some type with the 16-55mm... Disappointing. Anyway, mine is now repaired (good service) and I hope for the best! In between, I have ordered the Sony 35mm f1.8 which should be exceedingly nice IQ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMac Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Jaf-Photo - on the subject of good IQ with short zooms, is the 24-70 that you refer to the Sony FE 24-70mm f/4.0 ZA OSS Vario-Tessar T Lens? I understand that this is intended for full-frame cameras. Is there a similarly good OSS version better suited for aps-c that you would suggest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaf-Photo Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 The GM lens is 24-70mm f2.8. The f4 lens is the not so good one. For APS-C there's a gap in the lens line where the 16-50mm f2.8 should be. The 18-55mm 3.5-5.6 lens is better than the 16-50 kitlens, though, and quite affordable. Spending more, the FE 16-35/4 is quite good, even if it has less reach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
top10 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 On 2/14/2018 at 12:02 AM, Jaf-Photo said: For APS-C there's a gap in the lens line where the 16-50mm f2.8 should be. The 18-55mm 3.5-5.6 lens is better than the 16-50 kitlens, though, and quite affordable. Spending more, the FE 16-35/4 is quite good, even if it has less reach. Yes, I agree there is a serious gap. Is there any other option than FE 16-35/4 and FE 16-35/2.8 GM? The latter, of course, is huge and hugely expensive and therefore not a practical alternative. The FE 16-35/4 just might be a manageable one-lens solution on APS-C when traveling light, perhaps even complemented by a small prime. Unfortunately, the range is not too great. I am quite surprised Sony has ignored this for so long. Or perhaps they just see people going to full-frame only and can't be bothered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaf-Photo Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) Sony wants to nudge everyone over to the FE system. I guess they think they would save money if they could discontinue their legacy systems. For everyday walkaround photography I still like to use the 18-55mm lens that I got with my NEX7. The general image quality is good, although you don't get a wide aperture or the finest detail. Colours and general contrast are good, so the photos are fine for social media or A4 size printing. The lens is small and light too, which is the main reason I still use it. Edited June 24, 2018 by Jaf-Photo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaf-Photo Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Come to think of it, I've printed A3+ from this lens too with no issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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