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sony 16-35 f2.8 16-35 f4 12-24 f4 Lens

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#1 Ttp

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 03:49 AM

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Hello folks, I am new around here, maybe you can help me decide, I just switch from Nikon to Sony, I am a landscape photographer, and i dont know which lens to buy. Since these 3 lenses are very good.

I dont know if buy 16-35 f2.8 GM vs 16-35 f4 Zeiss vs 12-24 f4 GM


Please let me know why you choose the lens. Any good or bad experience????


Thank you for your help! :) 



#2 Jeffreykmd

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 05:22 PM

I have the 16-35 f4 great landscape lens. The 12 to 24 is nice but cannot use filters on it. I do not feel the 2.8 is worth the extra cost and it is also larger.


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Posted 20 August 2017 - 05:48 PM

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There are equally persuasive arguments for each of the three. 

  

I'm the patient type. I just wait ... and buy whichever one pops 

up as a refurb, open box, or similar bargain !   

  

My method also avoids "woulda shoulda coulda" regret. I buy 

whichever one pops up. I can't second guess my choice cuz I 

delegated my choice to "fate". Even if the deals pop up 1-2-3,  

three days in row, for a different lens each day ... I bought the

one that "volunteered" first, and that is that :-) 

 

Or toss a coin ... well, THREE coins ! And it's really a good as 

all the advice you can get online when all the advice is equally 

good for all three lenses. 

 

Worst case scenario: You win a lottery and buy all three. Now 

you never know which lens to bring with you :-( ... Just do it.  

  

I happen to know, 100%, which one is for me. No wondering 

about it. But what I know is of no use to other users so it's not

worth mentioning. What I've recommended above is far more

useful to other users. 



#4 Jaf-Photo

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 09:50 PM

I would give the 16-35/4 a miss because it's lower quality than the other two. The 12-24 is cheaper than the GM and the initial reviews look promising. For landscape you'll make better use of the extra millimeters at the wide end.

#5 PHDX

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:50 AM

I owned the 16-35 F4 in absence of any other good zoom at the time, and sold it because there was an overlap with my 24-70 GM. I then got recently the 12-24.

 

I had a good experience with the Zeiss 16-35 and if you have a limited budget, it would be probably the best choice for landscape. In addition, this zoom is quite small and light.

I did not try the 16-35 GM but I guess it is better in terms of sharpness and hopefully at 35 where the Zeiss is not very good.

 

I have tested the 12-24 since a month in different situations and it performs well. However it is a real wide angle zoom with the distortion you may expect and the corners at all apertures are quite soft. I would say it is a nice to have but somewhat a specialized zoom, not the one I would have bought first. 

 

So, if you have enough money to spend,if you are not afraid with the weight and size, and according to the existing reviews, the 16-35 GM could be the good choice 

 

A last comment : you come from the Nikon world (I came from the Canon one some years ago) and are probably used to a bulkier bodies. It is clear that, with the actual technology,  most of the very good lenses will allways be rather heavy, so do not hesitate to add a grip to your camera : it will be much better balanced (among other advantages)

This is what I did and I am very happy with that.



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Posted 31 August 2017 - 02:33 AM

............  most of the very good lenses will allways be rather heavy,

so do not hesitate to add a grip to your camera : it will be much

better balanced (among other advantages) This is what I did and I

am very happy with that.

 

I still have a Canon outfit, altho I mainly use Sonys. Before 

adding a grip and heavy lenses to a Sony, as replacement 

for the Canon outfit, I'd just keep the Canon and convert it 

to a heavy bulky "mirrorless" outfit by adding a really good

hood-loupe to the rear LCD panel. Costs thousands to go 

from Canons to Sonys, but only about a hundred to add a 

hood-loupe. End result, either way, is a big bulky live view 

outfit ... but the Canon also doubles as an SLR if you ever 

have need of one :-)  

 

OTOH, the Sony will also double as a semi-compact if you 

just remove the grip and attach a compact lens. Either way 

it's your "Gas Money" so let's keep the economy rolling ! 

  

PS  

FWIW I have a 19-35 f/4 for the Canons and I've never for 

a moment wished to speed it up to f/2.8 and crank it out to 

16 [nor 12 ! ! !] mm. It's bulky enuf as it is. I've never been 

tempted to adapt it to the Sonys. Tho my favorite shooting 

condition is darkness, I find lens speed useful for midrange 

FLs but pointless for ultrawides [same for longish FLs]. My 

silliest lenses are a 20 f/1.8 and 105 f/1.8 ... I always wind 

up grabbing the 20 f/4 or the 105 f/2.5 altho acoarst YMMV. 

And I don't mean to dump on your interest in 16 ultrawide. 

I have an old 17 f/3.5 that serves occasional need and I'm

not likely to ever part with it. It's just that when you discuss 

combining a zoom function, ultra wide angle, and a zoom 

function, with or without the grip, the idea of switching to a 

more compact camera body doesn't make huge sense :-( 



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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:31 AM

I have the 16-35 2.8 and 12-24 4.0. IMO the 12-24 is almost too wide and is strictly for architecture and interior photos. Humans looks so distorted whenever I take pictures at the wide end with the 12-24. For your purposes it may suite you better though. I'm a hybrid shooter and love the 16-35 2.8 for video. Also love that I can switch to APSC mode and essentially have a 16-52.5 lens. Even more with CIZ.

#8 IamJF

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 08:30 AM

I have the 1635F4 Seiss and the Zeiss coatings do their magic - great contrast, better then older primes. Perfect for landscape. 

But when I would buy new I would opt for the 1635GM - cause for video you could need the extra light (I also have 35/2.8 and 28/2), really sharp in the corners and not much bigger. But if budget is tight the F4 Z is a very fine lens. 

And I'm fine with 16mm. Shooting very wide is something you/I :-) have to learn and after 10 exciting shots gets somehow less exciting. The 1635 is a great allround lens and together with the 55/1.8 makes a great hiking/indoor package. Sometimes I add the 90mm Macro for total nature photo cracyness :-) 



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Posted 11 September 2017 - 11:25 AM

I recomemend you the 1635 f4 if you need it just for the landscape (cheaper, lighter & smaller). But if you need the 16-35 mm for the city, street-photography, walkaround, architecture and people, consider the 16/35 f2.8 for better bokeh (11 Blades instead of 7 & 2.8 Aperture), more light in the night and sharper in 35mm for people.

 

I switched to Sony because I wanted the best Quality in the smallest body so I still use my Zeiss Batis 25 f2 (on A7RII) for the Landscape (at f8 best for the nature, sharp, Light & small), but sometimes I need more wide and that is why I consider to by a 1635 zoom lens, And since I love the street-photography (also in the night) I will buy the 1635 f2.8 in the near future.



#10 crysmeth

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 02:22 PM

May I interest you to the laowa 15mm f2. Very sharp and the built is excellent. I had mine delivered last month and I love it.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 12:51 AM

Of your choices I think the 12-24mm

 

If you shoot landscapes and real estate you likely will not use the the F2.8 setting

 

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