Fighting compression on the A7R

[WondersnapAZ]

Someone please guide me in the right direction. Facebook and Flickr compresses sony full frame images way more then any full frame I've ever touched. They put a black cast and pixelation over pretty much every photo I post with any darkness in it. I know facebook always compresses images but why is it worse for sony?

 

Yes I've tried adjusting the size of the image to suggested fb sizes as many tutorials show and it works with other cams but not sony.

 

Flickr makes my images look horrible too, yet I can open an email with the photo and it looks way better on the same monitor

 

I'd like to showcase my work to clients but I feel it's losing me business. 

 

I've tried everything I've seen online and I'm wondering if anyone can help.

 

they always look like this but when I print or view on computer they look fine

 

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[WondersnapAZ]

I can text email or message any of you how I see it on my computer but can't even post it here without compression

 

 

this is making me want to sell honestly

[Guest all8]

Try googling on "avoid Facebook compression" at least some tips come in the first result: http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/blog/tutorials/avoiding-facebook-image-compression/

 

Consider a site like 500px, or one of the alternatives, they all link into Facebook (et al) which can be handy for cross promotion ... I guess?

[WondersnapAZ]

I've done all of those tricks and still get the black contrast blobs all over the dark spots on my images

[Guest all8]

And on 500px too?

[bwana]

Someone please guide me in the right direction. Facebook and Flickr compresses sony full frame images way more then any full frame I've ever touched. They put a black cast and pixelation over pretty much every photo I post with any darkness in it. I know facebook always compresses images but why is it worse for sony?

 

Yes I've tried adjusting the size of the image to suggested fb sizes as many tutorials show and it works with other cams but not sony.

 

Flickr makes my images look horrible too, yet I can open an email with the photo and it looks way better on the same monitor

 

I'd like to showcase my work to clients but I feel it's losing me business. 

 

I've tried everything I've seen online and I'm wondering if anyone can help.

 

they always look like this but when I print or view on computer they look fine

I post pictures off the Sony A7R, A7S and A7 II to Google+, Flickr, Facebook and a number of other sites/forums with no major problems.  Not too sure why you would be having problems.  I also post pictures off Canon cameras; no real difference between Canon and Sony that I can see?  A sample Sony A7 II picture:

 

What is the format of the pictures you're posting?  I stick to high quality JPG.

 

bwa

[relaxing]

Flickr has hundreds of Sony-only communities with people posting beautiful photos. It's not Flickr.

 

So we're going to need more details about your workflow.

- shooting raw or jpeg?  camera settings?

- editing software?

- jpeg viewer?

 

Post your before and after shots to a generic file sharing site like dropbox. You can even zip them so you know they're not going through any kind of conversion on upload.

[Max the Dog]

Sony's "14 bit" is actually 11+7 lossy compression. The Sony file has less than 10% of the discreet color values as a Nikon file.  When you start with less you end with less. 

 

You get banding, posterization, reduced shadow recovery and artifact creation with the Sony files. 

 

Sony says they're going to fix this but I'm not holding breath.  It took them almost 3 years to acknowledge it as an issue. 

 

Plenty more here -

 

https://sonyvnikon.wordpress.com/

 

Your line of inquiry here. 

 

https://sonyvnikon.wordpress.com/2015/02/27/oh-14-bit-color-14-bit-color-where-art-thou/

 

My advice - cut your losses ASAP.  The wasted time and images are really the greatest expense. 

[bwana]

Sony's "14 bit" is actually 11+7 lossy compression. The Sony file has less than 10% of the discreet color values as a Nikon file.  When you start with less you end with less. 

 

You get banding, posterization, reduced shadow recovery and artifact creation with the Sony files. 

 

Sony says they're going to fix this but I'm not holding breath.  It took them almost 3 years to acknowledge it as an issue. 

 

Plenty more here -

 

https://sonyvnikon.wordpress.com/

 

Your line of inquiry here. 

 

https://sonyvnikon.wordpress.com/2015/02/27/oh-14-bit-color-14-bit-color-where-art-thou/

 

My advice - cut your losses ASAP.  The wasted time and images are really the greatest expense. 

Having a bad Sunday, are we!?

 

I nice line of B.S., but you're so far from correct as to be totally laughable!

 

bwa

[Wesley]

Stop posting to Facebook or don't give a crap about the quality on there because they degrade the hell out of your photo.

[Max the Dog]

It's all solid. 

 

6000 + readers in 90 + countries reading an average of 4 pages a visit. 

 

 

 

 

Having a bad Sunday, are we!?

 

I nice line of B.S., but you're so far from correct as to be totally laughable!

 

bwa

[Max the Dog]

On top of the Sony issues - more than likely you have a number of other problems now that I see your file.

 

Are you using ETTR technique ? 

 

Are you using the widest colorspace from capture to output ? 

 

Are you processing on a wide gamut color corrected monitor ?

 

Again, even if you're doing all of this right, Sony's 11+7 bit compression WILL ALWAYS PREVENT you from getting the dynamic range and discrete color values you need. 

 

I often process single Nikon 14 bit files that has Sony users guess that it's an HDR file. 

 

Never heard that when I was using the A7r and doing everything right.   

 

 

 

Someone please guide me in the right direction. Facebook and Flickr compresses sony full frame images way more then any full frame I've ever touched. They put a black cast and pixelation over pretty much every photo I post with any darkness in it. I know facebook always compresses images but why is it worse for sony?

 

Yes I've tried adjusting the size of the image to suggested fb sizes as many tutorials show and it works with other cams but not sony.

 

Flickr makes my images look horrible too, yet I can open an email with the photo and it looks way better on the same monitor

 

I'd like to showcase my work to clients but I feel it's losing me business. 

 

I've tried everything I've seen online and I'm wondering if anyone can help.

 

they always look like this but when I print or view on computer they look fine

[storyteller]

Sony's "14 bit" is actually 11+7 lossy compression. The Sony file has less than 10% of the discreet color values as a Nikon file. When you start with less you end with less.

 

You get banding, posterization, reduced shadow recovery and artifact creation with the Sony files.

 

Sony says they're going to fix this but I'm not holding breath. It took them almost 3 years to acknowledge it as an issue.

 

Plenty more here -

 

https://sonyvnikon.wordpress.com/

 

Your line of inquiry here.

 

https://sonyvnikon.wordpress.com/2015/02/27/oh-14-bit-color-14-bit-color-where-art-thou/

 

My advice - cut your losses ASAP. The wasted time and images are really the greatest expense.

Thread Jack much? This is clearly not the OP's issue. If it were he would see it on his local files. Please be respectful and helpful. If you want to rant about this issue start your own thread.

 

 

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